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Dana Spencer

“Life Is Messy” – “Beat Your Promises”

October 1, 2024
By Jim Sorgatz

Nuggets of Wisdom from the Home Builder Digital Marketing Summit

“Life is messy. Not every home purchase comes from a beautiful situation. People sometimes buy a new home because they got divorced or someone died. If you have kids, your home is likely not perfectly manicured – you probably have toys scattered on the floor. Picture-perfect homes look great on a website, but they are not realistic. Being human is critical to building trust. Another component of building trust is transparency in pricing.”

Stephanie McCarty from Taylor Morrison sharing her thoughts on building trust.

Observations like these from Stephanie McCarty, Chief Marketing & Communications Officer at Taylor Morrison Homes, are thought-provoking. Fresh perspectives and nuggets of wisdom from a variety of home builders and digital marketing professionals are what draw me and others to events like The International Builders Show and the Home Builder Digital Marketing Summit. The 4th annual Summit in Phoenix, AZ, was the second live event sponsored by Blue Tangerine and Outhouse, LLC focusing exclusively on digital marketing. The 80+ attendees spent a day and a half learning from experts and sharing their knowledge in roundtable breakout sessions.

Thoughts to Ponder

Greg Bray, President of Blue Tangerine: “Only 20-25% of web visitors start (land) on your home page.” Wow! We spend so much time making our home page perfect. Time to go back and review our site to be sure every other landing page is just as impactful.

Thank you so very much for including me in the Digital Summit last week.  It was a good event and I greatly appreciated the opportunity to hear from leaders in the industry as well as the different vendors who have innovated to make our jobs easier and more effective.
Gena, Marketing Manager
Keystone Homes

Cabe Vinson, Director of New Business Development @ Sr. Strategist at Blue Tangerine: “Good meta descriptions can improve click rates. Write for the end user, not the search engine – Google can tell the difference.” Also, “Google My Business reviews are huge, but perfect is not the goal. A 4.8 is better than a 5.0, as it seems a little more realistic.”

Mila Sorenson, Sr. Director of Marketing & Client Services at Blue Tangerine: “The big change to Google Analytics 4 is coming. Be sure to link GA4 to your Google products before that happens.” Mila also discussed using heatmaps and recording tools to see how visitors interact with your website. Very interesting.

Bob Mirman from Eliant at one of the roundtable discussions.

Bob Mirman, CEO of Eliant Inc.: “Be careful what you promise. Satisfaction is not the goal. It is the result of meeting promises and expectations. The only way to delight a customer is to BEAT your promises. So, set your buyer’s expectations at a level you know you can consistently BEAT, not just meet! The result – higher levels of TRUST.”

Cory Dotson, Sr. Director of Development Operations at Blue Tangerine: “Influencer marketing is much less expensive than traditional marketing.” As host of his own YouTube channel with 40K+ subscribers, Cory knows his subject well! “The biggest challenge is finding the right influencer. They don’t need to be in the same industry. The goal is to find an influencer who attracts your desired audience.”

Panelists Susan Paul from Costa Verde Homes, Sharon Baker from Camelot Homes, and Kim Ross from Christopher Alan Homes: Winter is coming – it always does. The time to prepare is when times are good.

From Dana Spencer, National Vice President of Sales at K. Hovnanian Homes: “Creating emotional connections with buyers is critical. Leveraging digital tools to create an emotional connection while reassuring potential buyers is more important now than it was 12 months ago, and we must accomplish this in a cost-effective way.”

Dana Spencer with K. Hovnanian discussing creating emotional connections.

One of the ways K. Hov is creating an emotional connection is with their new Looks program. Click here to check it out. I get teary-eyed every time I watch the video – it’s beautiful!

Kristi Allen, Owner of WoodCastle Homes: “It was way more challenging than I expected but also so much more rewarding,” Kristi says as she relays the story of starting her own home building company. “I also learned when faced with change you cannot be afraid to make mistakes. There are huge changes taking place within our industry, and no single person has all the answers. You have to be willing to ask questions and learn.” Kristi also inspires many through her volunteer efforts, one being the lead contractor for The House That She Built home. This project, and the accompanying marketing campaign by Mollie Elkman of Group Two Advertising, are elevating careers in construction by educating young readers, girls in particular, about the people and skills that go into building a home. This makes me wonder what else our industry can be doing to elevate careers in construction. Building new homes for families is not just a job but a major contribution to the American dream.

Kristi Allen with WoodCastle Homes sharing her experience with change.

A Great Relaunch of Live Programming!

With 80+ participants and presentations by more than a dozen builders and marketing experts, this year’s event was a successful reboot of live programming by Blue Tangerine and Outhouse. In addition to the inspiring presentations, attendees learned from each other through roundtable discussions. They competed in games of Kahoots for some terrific prizes provided by sponsors. The Wednesday evening mixer at Pedal Haus Brewery was also a lot of fun, offering participants a chance to mix, mingle, and build deeper connections at an offsite location and to see why downtown Phoenix is the “happening place.”

Looking ahead to 2023, we are planning a more significant event. Dates and location will be announced in the coming weeks, so watch your inbox for full details.

A big THANK YOU from Outhouse to all attendees, speakers, and sponsors. See you next year!

Our amazing sponsors!
Summit and Home Builder Digital Marketing Podcast co-hosts Greg Bray with Blue Tangerine and Kevin Weitzel from Outhouse.

Education Sessions We’re Digging at IBS 2022

March 28, 2025
By Jim Sorgatz



With the International Builders Show (IBS) in Orlando only a week away (Feb 7-10), we wanted to give a quick overview of some of the great educational sessions presented by Outhouse, industry partners, clients, and friends. The event may be smaller this year, but the programing is top-notch!  We also look forward to exploring the show floor, attending The Nationals, the VIP Builder Party, and meeting up with you all. Speaking of the Nationals, the Home Builder Digital Marketing Podcast featuring our own Kevin Weitzel is a Silver Award winner. We are excited to be in the running for the Gold!

Here are a few of the sessions we look forward to attending.

Strategies & Success Secrets for Creating the Online Home Shopping Experience Buyers Expect

Featuring Outhouse’s own Kevin Weitzel, and Greg Bray of Blue Tangerine
Thu, Feb 10 \ 1:45 pm – 2:45 pm EST \ W308-C
Homebuyers now have an online expectation that must be met and are more comfortable than ever purchasing a home without having to physically visit it. Join us for an engaging discussion with a group of top industry technologists who will show you the online experience your customers expect and expose how e-commerce technologies can drive new home sales.

The Power of Dynamic Thinking:  Embracing Change as the New Normal

Featuring Al Trellis of Home Builders Network and Kevin Oakley of Do You Convert
Mon, Feb 7 \ 9:00 AM – 12:00 PM EST \ W304-A
In this Master Workshop, a powerhouse panel of industry experts explore the concept of dynamic thinking and how you can create a culture of change across your organization that constantly allows for improved operations, competitiveness and profitability. From design through delivery, you’ll explore and rethink all aspects of your business.

Marketing Strategies for the Future: Level Out & Level Up

Mollie Elkman of Group Two, Kerry Mulcrone of Kerry & Co., Bryan Mecsey of Zillow, and Karen Schroeder of Mayberry Homes
Mon, Feb 7 \ 1:00 pm – 4:00 pm EST \ W304-C
As the clouds part and things begin to level out, now’s the time to reassess your marketing efforts and set a course that keeps you ahead of the competition. This Master Workshop has you covered! The Marketing Umbrella approach is about thinking broadly when it comes to research, strategy, branding, content, digital and experiential marketing. We’ll explore the five elements for building a marketing plan with low spend and big results, and dive deep into the most effective tools out there.

Managing Through Success Complacency: Keeping Your Team on Top of Their Game

Chris Hartley and Cory Charles of K. Hovnanian Homes, and Jennifer Cooper of Evolution Marketing
Tue, Feb 8 \ 3:45 pm – 4:45 pm EST \ W311-C
How do you keep your team on top of their game regardless of market conditions? By sharing a proven process, a panel of experts will take you through the steps that support sales, marketing and training to ensure your team does not fall victim to a great market. Learn how to build, develop and grow powerhouse teams that focus on customer experience, sales and marketing. Understand what roles are vital in today’s world, how to train your teams for success and how to get buy-in for roles that you need in the future.

Extreme Makeover Sales Edition: Empowering Your OSC to Guide Sales Conversion & Customer Experience

Featuring Ingrid Prince of Century Complete, Leah Fellows of Blue Gypsy, Cori Masters of Beacon Homes – Shared Drive, and Heidi Schroeder of ECI | Lasso
Wed, Feb 9 \ 9:15 am – 10:15 am EST \ W315
Are you letting your OSCs take the lead, and are your customers getting what they want? If not, it may be time for an Extreme Makeover of your lead handling process. In this fast-paced, game show style session, our five OSC experts will provide their unique and spirited views to this process. Receive unmatched advice as you learn today’s best practices for lead qualification and conversion while giving your customers the experience they desire.

From Prospects to Profits: A Systemized Process for Sales Success

Featuring Erik Cofield from Association of Professional Builders
Wed, Feb 9 \ 9:15 am – 10:15 am EST \ W311-C
Numbers tell a story, and learning to generate and read numbers within your sales process allows for tremendous insight and smart, accurate decision making. But no manual process can deliver the numbers, the story and benefit of an automation one. In this interactive session, learn how to systemize your sales and leverage your numbers into formulas, decisions and a process that will lead to a great level of success.

How K. Hovnanian Uses AI & Digital Engagement to Put Buyers in Control of Their Buying Journey

Bassam Salem of AtlasRTX and Dana Spencer of K. Hovnanian
Wed, Feb 9 \ 10:15 am – 10:45 am EST \ Tech Bytes – W230
K. Hovnanian Homes has been at the forefront of new digital technologies to reduce friction between builder and buyer throughout the entire customer journey. Explore how they use their website as an important salesperson, and learn about their wildly successful digital assistant, ‘Ana’, text messaging, and other automated technologies that have helped them revolutionize the digital homebuying process.

Does Your Website Have a “Buy Now” Button?

Greg Bray of Blue Tangerine, Carol Morgan of Denim Marketing, and Paul Gortzig of Bokka Group
Wed, Feb 9 \ 11:15 am – 12:15 pm EST \ W311-A
Car dealers have perfected selling cars online — even allowing for a variety of options and upgrades. Why haven’t home builders figured this out? This session focuses on what home builders need to add to their websites to make “Buy Now” possible. Integrating technology with marketing messaging and learning how the sales team supports the customer experience for early adopters is key.

The New Rules for New Home Sales: Reevaluating Your Sales Process & Tactics in a Digital World

Matt Riley of New Home Inc, Chad Sanschagrin of Cannonball Moments, and Myers Barnes of Myers Barnes Associates
Wed, Feb 9 \ 11:15 am – 12:15 pm EST \ W315
In 2020, builders hurried to adapt to a shift to complete online selling. From home tours to closings, every step evolved to a virtual system. In 2021, the unprecedented demand pushed builders and new home sales professionals to their limits. In the haste to keep up, did you institute the best practices? Have you maintained the fundamentals you need? This advanced session will help you look at what works and where you can improve your sales system.

Is Your Sales Team Ready to Keep “By Appointment” Going?

Kimberly Mackey of New Homes Solutions Consulting, Melanie Mickie of Engel & Volkers, and Linda Hebert of Diversified Marketing and Communications
Thu, Feb 10 \ 11:15 am – 12:15 pm EST \ W311-C
For years, sales trainers have preached the value of setting appointments versus simply relying on walk-in traffic. After everything we have experienced in the past two years, have our sales teams finally seen the wisdom in doing so? Data shows that scheduling appointments creates a far better customer experience and equates to approximately 50% better closing rate. Working by appointment also generates more quality time with buyers, fewer tire kickers, more qualified buyers and much more. Join us to learn the systematic approach to help your sales team recognize the continued value of working by appointment and build their sales flow.

Uncover Hidden Gems in Local SEO Optimization

Cabe Vinson of Blue Tangerine
Thu, Feb 10 \ 11:15 am – 11:45 am EST \ Tech Bytes – W230
You understand the importance of SEO. You’ve spent a lot of time and money to optimize your content, site, profiles, meta data and more. Yet you still find yourself asking the question: “Why isn’t my business showing up at or near the top of the search results?” In this Tech Bytes session, uncover some strategies you can implement now to build upon your SEO foundation and improve your local search result rankings.

60 Design Ideas in 60 Minutes

Featuring Dave Miles of Milesbrand, and more
Tue, Feb 8 \ 9:15 am – 10:15 am EST \ Tangerine Ballroom – West Hall F3
In this fast-paced session, industry-leading architects, interior designers, developers and builders will share the most current design ideas and strategies that you can use to update your elevations, renew floor plans, animate streetscapes, enhance amenities and develop dynamic neighborhoods. Using a wide array of drawings and photos, the panelists will show you how cutting-edge design can capture your buyer’s attention and make the sale.

Tools for Growth & Protection When the Market Ebbs & Flows

Mike Dildine and Jared Maybon of Highland Homes
Wed, Feb 9 \ 3:45 pm – 4:45 pm EST \ W304-C
Markets will always have their highs and lows, and for many small business owners, those variations can stunt or slow desired growth, or restrict holding the status quo. This session will highlight the tools used to help builders and remodelers not only accelerate growth beyond their goals, but also protect them from losing traction when conditions of uncertainty, even unprecedented ones, surface in the market.

Meredith Oliver and Kerry Mulcrone in a fun session at IBS 2020

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